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that was john mccain's, by the way, second appearance on fox within 12 hours. the republicans are right on track for 2016, folks. let's turn to howard fineman, nbc news political analyst and editorial director of the huffington post media group. howard, i was struck by your comment yesterday on "hardball" where you said that the hearing was the last failed shot of the 2012 election and the first failed shot of the 2016 campaign. how are the republicans doing today? >> well, i think i said it was a desperate act, but failed shot will also do. ed, i really think the emotional energy among the republicans is about their frustration at the way they lost the presidential election and their sort of lashing out at major figures in the democratic party such as hillary clinton as they begin the 2016 cycle. rand paul, senator rand paul imagined himself as president and dreamed of how he would have fired hillary clinton. but as implausible as it may seem to our viewers tonight, rand paul wants to run for president and thinks he can get elected. and he's going to run on th
that was john mccain's, by the way, second appearance on fox within 12 hours. the republicans are right on track for 2016, folks. let's turn to howard fineman, nbc news political analyst and editorial director of the huffington post media group. howard, i was struck by your comment yesterday on "hardball" where you said that the hearing was the last failed shot of the 2012 election and the first failed shot of the 2016 campaign. how are the republicans doing today? >> well, i...
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senator mccain, you were just there. you were in a refugee camp, and i know you heard this kind of thing. people measure what we do. and in a way that's a good exclamation point to my testimony. >> in 1971, before he was senator john kerry, navy lieutenant john kerry appeared before the senate foreign relations committee, the same committee he sat before today, to talk about the war he had just returned from, which was the vietnam war. john kerry famously protested against that war. and now the people who are protesting against the current war and maybe the future ones are protesting at his hearing, at his confirmation. and everybody else rolls their eyes and laughs at it but he looked at her instead and said essentially, hey, that was me. full circle. >>> the huffington post headline >>> the huffington post headline today on what happened in congress was "failibuster." >>> the huffington post headline today on what happened in congress was "failibuster." fail, as in bummer. over a talking points memo it was "there won't
senator mccain, you were just there. you were in a refugee camp, and i know you heard this kind of thing. people measure what we do. and in a way that's a good exclamation point to my testimony. >> in 1971, before he was senator john kerry, navy lieutenant john kerry appeared before the senate foreign relations committee, the same committee he sat before today, to talk about the war he had just returned from, which was the vietnam war. john kerry famously protested against that war. and...
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here is a reminder to senator mccain. every senator, including john mccain, knows the answer to the question about susan rice. ambassador rice went on the sunday shows with talking points approved by the cia. the cia informed members of congress about it two months ago. democratic senator dick durbin of illinois wanted to make clear what happens when intelligence information is still evolving. >> and i'd like to refer to five words for them to reflect on. iraqi weapons of mass destruction. we were told by every level of government here there were iraqi weapons of mass destruction that justified a war, the invasion by the united states. we are still searching for those weapons. they didn't exist. >> clearly, the strangest behavior of the day came from senator rand paul of kentucky. the tea party darling, the leader of the tea party used the hearing to grandstand and advance his political positions. >> had i been president at the time and i found that you did not read the cables from benghazi, you did not read the cables fr
here is a reminder to senator mccain. every senator, including john mccain, knows the answer to the question about susan rice. ambassador rice went on the sunday shows with talking points approved by the cia. the cia informed members of congress about it two months ago. democratic senator dick durbin of illinois wanted to make clear what happens when intelligence information is still evolving. >> and i'd like to refer to five words for them to reflect on. iraqi weapons of mass...
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and that's where mccain wants to go. mccain wants to go to war with iran. mccain wants to link anybody who might attack the united states somehow like we did with iraq to iran. to give us room to move. to either allow israel to make an attack and us have their back or to do it first and have them join us. >> that's irresponsible. >> hal: that's right. that's what a child does. that's what a tv commentator does. that's not what the president or the secretary of state does. that's not what an intelligence operative does. that's why she's saying read the classified and the unclassified versions you'll see most of your questions are answered. >> score political points. >> hal: back with more of "the stephanie miller show" right after this. rrenttv turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. >> stephanie miller. ♪ let's groove tonight ♪ ♪ share the spice of life ♪ >> hal: welcome back to "the stephanie miller show." now with 10
and that's where mccain wants to go. mccain wants to go to war with iran. mccain wants to link anybody who might attack the united states somehow like we did with iraq to iran. to give us room to move. to either allow israel to make an attack and us have their back or to do it first and have them join us. >> that's irresponsible. >> hal: that's right. that's what a child does. that's what a tv commentator does. that's not what the president or the secretary of state does. that's not...
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. >> surprising exactly no one, senator john mccain was still demanding answers. >> the american people deserve to know answers, and they certainly don't deserve false answers. people don't bring rpgs and mortars to spontaneous demonstrations. here we are, four months later, and we still don't have the basic information. >> but the harshest criticism of all came from paul legacy, senator rand paul, whose ambitions and disrespect seem to know no bounds. >> i'm glad you're accepting responsibility, i think ultimately with you leaving you're accepting responsibility for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and i really mean that. had i been president at the time and found you did not read the cables from benghazi, did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have removed you from your post. >> it felt senator dick durbin to remind the chamber about actual failures and coverups. >> i do want to make one point for the record here about whether the american people are told everything right away, in the right way, so that they can be fully informed, and i'd like to refer to five words for
. >> surprising exactly no one, senator john mccain was still demanding answers. >> the american people deserve to know answers, and they certainly don't deserve false answers. people don't bring rpgs and mortars to spontaneous demonstrations. here we are, four months later, and we still don't have the basic information. >> but the harshest criticism of all came from paul legacy, senator rand paul, whose ambitions and disrespect seem to know no bounds. >> i'm glad you're...
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steve schmidt is a lightweight, a guy who did a horrible job running john mccain's campaign. >> i always said the worst president was jimmy carter. guess what. jimmy carter goes to second place. barack obama has been the worst president ever. >> oh, donald, little advice here tonight. don't take your frustration out on dead spin. they only told you what the rest of the country has been thinking for years. tonight in our survey, i ask you, do republicans finally realize the consequences of holding the economy hostage? 31% of you say yes. 69% of you say no. >>> coming up, the controversy overcoming clean. find out why lance armstrong's confession is not impressing the people who matter most. we'll talk about that with a psychologist next. >> big finish tonight, while we're human from time to time, we'll say things that aren't true. some try to keep their lives going, others come clean. this week lance armstrong decided to confess his lies to oprah in front of about 3.2 million viewers. he admits he cheated so he could win seven tour de france titles. he says he would do anything to win, in
steve schmidt is a lightweight, a guy who did a horrible job running john mccain's campaign. >> i always said the worst president was jimmy carter. guess what. jimmy carter goes to second place. barack obama has been the worst president ever. >> oh, donald, little advice here tonight. don't take your frustration out on dead spin. they only told you what the rest of the country has been thinking for years. tonight in our survey, i ask you, do republicans finally realize the...
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then the bitter john mccain complained that there wasn't enough bipartisanship, which is particularly rich. and "the wall street journal" described it as contemptuous talk. what do these people want, the president to announce he was going to invade iran? >> it's funny, newt gingrich in an interview said he felt like 80% of the speech that reagan could have delivered this speech. what he thought was the liberal kind of gobbledygook i think was around climate change. i also remember that newt gingrich -- >> stop laughing, karen. >> -- was sitting on a couch with nancy pelosi talking about the need to address climate change. he's seemingly had a change of heart around that. this is to be expected. the president gives a speech that's the most robust defense of liberalism that he has given that has probably been given in public in the last 10 or 20 years -- >> you say that but actually the context of the speech was embracing the nation. he was trying to be inclusive. >> right. >> i think that's right. he had that line there where he placed liberalism within the larger context of americans'
then the bitter john mccain complained that there wasn't enough bipartisanship, which is particularly rich. and "the wall street journal" described it as contemptuous talk. what do these people want, the president to announce he was going to invade iran? >> it's funny, newt gingrich in an interview said he felt like 80% of the speech that reagan could have delivered this speech. what he thought was the liberal kind of gobbledygook i think was around climate change. i also...
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steve schmidt is a lightweight, a guy who did a horrible job running john mccain's campaign. >> i always said the worst president was jimmy carter. guess what. jimmy carter goes to second place. barack obama has been the worst president ever. >> oh, donald, little advice here tonight. don't take your frustration out on dead spin. they only told you what the rest of the country has been thinking for years. tonight in our survey, i ask you, do republicans finally realize the consequences of holding the economy hostage? 31% of you say yes. 69% of you say no. >>> coming up, the controversy overcoming clean. find out why lance armstrong's confession is not impressing the people who matter most. we'll talk about that with a psychologist next. [ male announcer ] coughequence™ #8. waking the baby. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyqui
steve schmidt is a lightweight, a guy who did a horrible job running john mccain's campaign. >> i always said the worst president was jimmy carter. guess what. jimmy carter goes to second place. barack obama has been the worst president ever. >> oh, donald, little advice here tonight. don't take your frustration out on dead spin. they only told you what the rest of the country has been thinking for years. tonight in our survey, i ask you, do republicans finally realize the...
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steve schmidt is a lightweight, a guy who did a horrible job running john mccain's campaign. >> i always said the worst president was jimmy carter. guess what. jimmy carter goes to second place. barack obama has been the worst president ever. >> oh, donald, little advice here tonight. don't take your frustration out on dead spin. they only told you what the rest of the country has been thinking for years. tonight in our survey, i ask you, do republicans finally realize the consequences of holding the economy hostage? 31% of you say yes. 69% of you say no. >>> coming up, the controversy overcoming clean. find out why lance armstrong's confession is not impressing the people who matter most. we'll talk about that with a psychologist next. [ male announcer ] when you wear dentures you may not know that your mouth is under attack, from food particles and bacteria. try fixodent. it helps create a food seal defense for a clean mouth and kills bacteria for fresh breath. ♪ fixodent, and forget it. looks like you're in a pickle. yeah. can you get me out of it ? just so happens i know a chap...
steve schmidt is a lightweight, a guy who did a horrible job running john mccain's campaign. >> i always said the worst president was jimmy carter. guess what. jimmy carter goes to second place. barack obama has been the worst president ever. >> oh, donald, little advice here tonight. don't take your frustration out on dead spin. they only told you what the rest of the country has been thinking for years. tonight in our survey, i ask you, do republicans finally realize the...
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once america moves forward a generation, it almost never moves back and that was a problem for the mccains and even the romneys of this world. however -- when you're the vp, you get one shot to extend. you are defined by the guy above you. so, you get to ride on the previous generation. >> he gets younger. >> he's the youngest guy in this town, too. >> benjamin button. >> i talked to a veteran democratic actrist strategist who has been involved and she told me within 48 hours she got a call from both joe biden and martin omool o'malley about whe you in 2016. dick cheney was not going to run, we knew he was not going to run. you saw his influence in the second bush term go on decline. joe biden is saying he is prepared to run to keep his influence or is he running? >> i think it's hard to know that. i think people forget how important it is in this town, the personal relationships. people talked often enough that obama sometimes can be a and we will appreciate over the next two years in particular what a good retail politician this man is. i don't think anything gets done in this administra
once america moves forward a generation, it almost never moves back and that was a problem for the mccains and even the romneys of this world. however -- when you're the vp, you get one shot to extend. you are defined by the guy above you. so, you get to ride on the previous generation. >> he gets younger. >> he's the youngest guy in this town, too. >> benjamin button. >> i talked to a veteran democratic actrist strategist who has been involved and she told me within 48...
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introduced by the current security of ry state hillary clinton and senator warren and senator john mccain representing the republicans. they were all very complimentary. once kerry got talking he laid out hid world view and explained at the state department if he is confirmed he plans to be faced with a new look al qaeda. >> loosama bin laden in the document that is came out of abad bad is urging his cohorts to go to other places to get away from the airplanes, get away from the drones. he specifically encouraged al qaeda to disperse. and they did. >> iran is sure to cause headices for the next secretary of state. as the nominee for the top diplomat senator kerry makes clear he wants to do whatever it takes to keep nuclear weapons out of the country. >> i repeat here today our policy is not containment it is prevention. >> we expect to see a committee vote to confirm kerry tuesday and a full vote of the senate shortly after that. we are told that since secretary clinton is planning to stick around at the state department until february 1st a tuesday vote would allow for a smooth transitio
introduced by the current security of ry state hillary clinton and senator warren and senator john mccain representing the republicans. they were all very complimentary. once kerry got talking he laid out hid world view and explained at the state department if he is confirmed he plans to be faced with a new look al qaeda. >> loosama bin laden in the document that is came out of abad bad is urging his cohorts to go to other places to get away from the airplanes, get away from the drones....
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looking like a fait accompli but it wubts necessarily obvious in 2008 that the war would end and if john mccain has been elected -- >> we might be somewhere else. >> a big twiens between 2008 and 2012 is that in '08 we had a big debate about iraq. and that's why he's president now in large part but in 2012, because mitt romney seated foreign policy to barack obama and the republicans have come off if not weak, at least, with the president on a lot of the things he's for, the american people i think, lost out on what's usually a very important part of a presidential election which is air debate about some of the big things that america is doing on their behalf. whether it the drone program or afghanistan or whatever it is, we didn't really talk about it that much because there was mostly agreement. >> republicans reduced the foreign policy conversation to whether or not the president was on an apology tour. >> and mitt romney and i said this sitting at the anchor test on the night of the third debate where mitt romney basically agreed more than hi disagreed and said, yeah, wreshd debate these th
looking like a fait accompli but it wubts necessarily obvious in 2008 that the war would end and if john mccain has been elected -- >> we might be somewhere else. >> a big twiens between 2008 and 2012 is that in '08 we had a big debate about iraq. and that's why he's president now in large part but in 2012, because mitt romney seated foreign policy to barack obama and the republicans have come off if not weak, at least, with the president on a lot of the things he's for, the...
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mccain: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from arizona. mr. mccain: mr. president, before the senator from maryland leaves the floor, i'd like to tell him how much i appreciate the remarks that he just made. i think he gave a very accurate depiction of the agreement that we reached after many, many hours of always pleasant conversation. [laughter] and the fact is that we i think showed our colleagues and many others that it's still possible for a group of us to join together on a very difficult issue and a very complex one and the senator from maryland stated his preference just a minute ago that he is for majority rule. but he also understood that in order for us to come together that we had to move, each of us, in a more centrist direction. and without his input, in my view, and his efforts, it's very likely we would not have -- and his willingness to move towards the center on this issue, that we probably wouldn't have agre agreed. and i think the senator from maryland -- i ask unanimous consent the senator from maryland and i engage in a colloquy. the
mccain: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from arizona. mr. mccain: mr. president, before the senator from maryland leaves the floor, i'd like to tell him how much i appreciate the remarks that he just made. i think he gave a very accurate depiction of the agreement that we reached after many, many hours of always pleasant conversation. [laughter] and the fact is that we i think showed our colleagues and many others that it's still possible for a group of us to join together on...
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senator mccain. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i'm pleased to be here with senator warren and secretary clinton to introduce to speak, say a few words about my friend, senator kerry, to the committee. obviously, the nominee doesn't need to be introduced to the committee on which he has served for over a quarter of a century, and as its chairman for the last four years so i can dispense with the customary summary of the nominee's record of public service and qualifications for the office for which he has been nominated. they're well known to you and to all of our colleagues. but i would like to take a few moments to attest to the personal qualities that senator kerry would bring to the office of secretary of state, which i think are well suited to the position. he and i have been friends for quite a long time now. we have had our disagreements, which is unsurprising given our political differences. and is often the case in our business, our friendship has been affected from time to time by our enthusiasm for our differing views, an
senator mccain. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i'm pleased to be here with senator warren and secretary clinton to introduce to speak, say a few words about my friend, senator kerry, to the committee. obviously, the nominee doesn't need to be introduced to the committee on which he has served for over a quarter of a century, and as its chairman for the last four years so i can dispense with the customary summary of the nominee's record of public service and qualifications for the office for...
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the exchange she had with john mccain, john mccain praised her at the beginning but then point by point by point he went after her specifically. he didn't mince any words. this was a dramatic moment. >> reporter: that's right. the two of them have a long-standing relationship. they were pretty close when they served together in the senate and traveled together internationally but john mccain has been the leader of this crusade of benghazi to get to the bottom of why many, many things went wrong. listen to the way he put it and listen to her reaction. >> i categorically reject your answer to senator johnson. why is it that the administration still refuses to provide the full text of e-mails regarding the dell lesion of al qaeda in the talking points? why do we care? the classified information had been included, it gives an entirely different version of event to the american people. going to the american people and tell them what happened, then you ought to have your facts straight. >> well, senator, i understand your very strong feelings. you knew chris, you were a friend of chris, you w
the exchange she had with john mccain, john mccain praised her at the beginning but then point by point by point he went after her specifically. he didn't mince any words. this was a dramatic moment. >> reporter: that's right. the two of them have a long-standing relationship. they were pretty close when they served together in the senate and traveled together internationally but john mccain has been the leader of this crusade of benghazi to get to the bottom of why many, many things went...
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. >> reporter: john mccain and kerry forged close bonds over vietnam. both naval officers, mccain was imprisoned. kerry returned to testify against the war in 1971. his first appearance before this committee. >> how do you ask a man to be the last man to die in vietnam? >> reporter: decades later, they united as senators to resolve p.o.w. issues and normalize relations with vietnam. >> working toward that end with john and witnessing almost daily his exemplary statesmanship is one of the highest privileges i've had here. >> reporter: today, they do have differences. mccain is more willing to arm the rebels in syria. >> i think we ought to tell the syrian people that we're either going to help them or we're not. >> if you have a complete implosion of the state, nobody has clearer definition of how you put those pieces back together. >> reporter: he and others also pressed kerry on benghazi. >> are you willing to work with me or do you basically kind of agree hillary clinton that that's kind of yesterday's news and let's move on? >> well, senator, if you'
. >> reporter: john mccain and kerry forged close bonds over vietnam. both naval officers, mccain was imprisoned. kerry returned to testify against the war in 1971. his first appearance before this committee. >> how do you ask a man to be the last man to die in vietnam? >> reporter: decades later, they united as senators to resolve p.o.w. issues and normalize relations with vietnam. >> working toward that end with john and witnessing almost daily his exemplary...
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and her demeanor in general angered john mccain. >> the answers, frankly that you have given this morning are not satisfactory to me. the american people deserve to know answers. and they certainly don't deserve false answers. and the answers that were given the american people on september 15th by the ambassador of the united nations were false. >> bill: once again secretary clinton didn't respond, allowing senator mccain's comments to float in the air. it should also be noted not one, not one democrat asked mrs. clinton the tough question. now, come on. that's appalling. are you guys looking out for the folks or what? secretary clinton will leave her job as soon as john kerry is confirmed as the new secretary of state, which should be in early february. but going forward, mrs. clinton doesn't really have to worry much about libya. it's clear americans are not holding her accountable. in a if new fox news poll 59% of americans approve of secretary clinton's job performance. just 29 percent disapprove. clearly the folks think she has been effective running the state department. many ameri
and her demeanor in general angered john mccain. >> the answers, frankly that you have given this morning are not satisfactory to me. the american people deserve to know answers. and they certainly don't deserve false answers. and the answers that were given the american people on september 15th by the ambassador of the united nations were false. >> bill: once again secretary clinton didn't respond, allowing senator mccain's comments to float in the air. it should also be noted not...
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they are impressive individuals, but it's a kind of pattern of dole and mccain and it's tough to compete with barack obama. that has been true somewhat at the state level until recently. denominates the senate majority leader. you get some good people that way, a lot of the more innovative governors have been younger people who jumped the line and said i have good ideas about running even if it's not my turn. i would be interested in encouraging more people to run even if it's not return. think of the model of obama who ran for the house and lost and was then running for president as a young man but did not differ to hillary clinton or all the others running. republicans could use a little bit more that, political entrepreneurship, among young candidates and potential candidates. host: do you think paul ryan will run? guest: i don't know, but he's awfully impressive. he did well as a vice- presidential candidate. i think it helps begin the process of making the republican party a much younger, more forward-looking party. host: mike from california. caller: good morning. thanks for in liv
they are impressive individuals, but it's a kind of pattern of dole and mccain and it's tough to compete with barack obama. that has been true somewhat at the state level until recently. denominates the senate majority leader. you get some good people that way, a lot of the more innovative governors have been younger people who jumped the line and said i have good ideas about running even if it's not my turn. i would be interested in encouraging more people to run even if it's not return. think...
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i was a mccain yak. i wrote the straight talk express and praised john mccain for being the maverick that he was. i must admit today, i don't know who is the real john mccain. is the real john mccain the guy we admired back in 2000, the maverick who was a republican, who was conservative but an independent thinker and actor. wasn't afraid to take on the people in his own party. was that the real john mccain or is the real john mccain the one that we see today the old grouch -- i said before, reminds me of an old man in his pajamas going out on his front porch saying "get off my lawn, you kids, get off my lawn! ." he's turned into a carrick catture -- caricature of a grump or the grinch. known which one is the real john mccain but the one we see is pretty disgusting. i don't know why anybody puts him on any one of of the talk shows. he's a total waste of time. anything that he says. when we come back, republicans caved on the debt ceiling. so what's next? >> announcer: radio meets television. the "bill pr
i was a mccain yak. i wrote the straight talk express and praised john mccain for being the maverick that he was. i must admit today, i don't know who is the real john mccain. is the real john mccain the guy we admired back in 2000, the maverick who was a republican, who was conservative but an independent thinker and actor. wasn't afraid to take on the people in his own party. was that the real john mccain or is the real john mccain the one that we see today the old grouch -- i said before,...
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senator mccain? >> thank you for allowing the honor of introducing you to the committee we have had for many years. i didn't want to bring it up, but since it was brought up i have to respond again. they do care why americans were murdered. we do care why american people were misled by the talking points secretary rice told the american people which are false. there were a sled with the information that we needed to know about how those talking points are put together which we still don't know the answers to many months later. we were misled when we were not allowed -- when we still haven't gotten answers on why there was not better security at the consulate when there was a clear indication of a threat. we were misled when we were not told that there was a request for the 16 member security force to remain at the consulate and we were removed. the list goes on and on. we still have not gotten the answer is as to what happens at benghazi, and for anyone to say that we don't care what happened is abso
senator mccain? >> thank you for allowing the honor of introducing you to the committee we have had for many years. i didn't want to bring it up, but since it was brought up i have to respond again. they do care why americans were murdered. we do care why american people were misled by the talking points secretary rice told the american people which are false. there were a sled with the information that we needed to know about how those talking points are put together which we still don't...
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. >> john mccain could not reserve the going back to yesterday's news. >> i didn't want to bring it up, but since it was just brought up i'll have to respond again. we do care why the american people were misled. some of us will not give up on this until we get all of the answers. >> i don't want to go on about it, but i didn't suggest and i don't want to suggest nor do i believe that secretary clinton was saying that people don't care about knowing what happened. >> there is no exam for being a united states senator. >> it is a matter of tricking enough voters. >> the bar is in the ground. >> what an amazing day two on the failure to unearth the conspiracy of how to lie to the american people. >> he is like a human whack-a-mole. ron johnson gets too close to him and your brain cells die. this is like the legacy of ron johnson. he attributes the warming of the earth to sun spots to gee logical spots of time. he is convinced that there is a conspiracy and there is none there. nor is it with hillary clinton saying it doesn't matter. he is obsessed with you know, he is obsessed with suspe
. >> john mccain could not reserve the going back to yesterday's news. >> i didn't want to bring it up, but since it was just brought up i'll have to respond again. we do care why the american people were misled. some of us will not give up on this until we get all of the answers. >> i don't want to go on about it, but i didn't suggest and i don't want to suggest nor do i believe that secretary clinton was saying that people don't care about knowing what happened. >>...